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In Defense of Mpreg 
1st-Aug-2005 12:46 am
mpreg: charliemc
It's been 35 years since I started writing slash. I wrote a story longhand that had Capt. Kirk, Mr. Spock and Janice Rand all thrust into a situation where in order to save Rand's honor, Spock had to satisfy a raging Kirk himself.

I was barely a teenager at the time, but I knew what I liked. And when the fannish novels started coming out and the hurt/comfort stuff started to fill the void, the obsession grew. Imagine my delighted surprise when I discovered the classic K/S writers like Leslie Fish and Gayle Feyrer and I started buying fanzines like 'Amok Time.' (Oh, I still cherish my K/S paperdolls and my images of Kirk as Spock's love slave.)

Back then slash fandom was in a closet, and if you wanted to share, you did it by mail. The idea of writing something and making it instantaneously available wasn't even a remote fantasy back then. And by the time it became reality, I was so steeped in RL's problems and interests, it took me until the end of the year 2000 to really discover on line fandom.

I started off again writing 'Profiler' and 'Law and Order:SVU.' And then, because I was a big NSYNC and Backstreet Boys fan, I started reading (but not writing) boyband fanfic. It was in that unlikely genre that I was introduced to the concept of mpreg, and my immediate reaction was "Not!"

Then I read a fanfic by a guy I knew on line who had a gentle talent and a gift for story-telling. The story is called "Expectant," and it's definitely worth a read.

Reading stories like this one started to convert me into a fan. Unfortunately, most of the good writers I know never finished their mpreg fics. Here's one, however, that is complete and worth a look, a crossover between the two big boybands called "Future BSB Fan."

Last July I had major surgery and took several weeks off work, and I started writing fanfic again and re-visiting some of my old favorites and learning about new ones. I became a big fan of 'LOTR' for the first time, and I embraced 'Troy' and the possibilities of that fandom. And then I discovered 'King Arthur.' All of these genres lend themselves very well to what I consider the slash of this decade, mpreg.

Many fans turn their nose up at the concept of mpreg -- some are the same fans who have absolutely no problem writing or reading AUs that are so non-canon that they bear little or no resemblance to the genre being written. While I admit it's difficult to suspend disbelief when you're talking about modern-day heroes or real people, when you're writing fandom steeped in legend and mystique like the genres listed above, it's relatively easy if the writer has the proper imagination and skill.

While a reader might feel it in no way emasculates their favorite character, like Legolas in 'LOTR,' for instance, to shag endlessly with his comrade-in-arms, Aragorn, they could easily shudder at the idea of Legolas pregnant. Why? I've found that some of it comes from the characteristics necessary for a realistic pregnancy, such as growing a womb and a big belly or having swollen breasts. I've read the comments about my own fanfic take on this subject, and I know the complaints.

But my answer is, so what? When so many are writing hurt/comfort, bondage and even death fanfics, why is mpreg so much squickier? And if a reader doesn't like the concept, why not just leave it alone (the choice we all have)? Why make such a big deal out of denigrating the stories and the fans who do love them?

Because, yes, mpreg has lots of fans. I get more feedback for my mpreg stories than anything else I write, even the one-of-ones (non-multi-part fics). There are so many people out there who are delighted with the idea of Paris of Troy or Lancelot pregnant. They're moved by these men's plight of dealing with issues like morning sickness and disapproval of their friends or families. They grieve with Lancelot when his milk has dried up and he can no longer nurse, and they cheer when Boromir is finally able to achieve the impregnation of one of the Elves who live under the Cataracts at Rauros at the climax of the ceremony held for just that purpose.

Fanfic is about the suspension of disbelief, about taking something and running with it, and some of us choose to run a little farther or a little faster. It doesn't make us wrong, it just makes us different. And as long as nobody's fun is being spoiled, I'm not sure I understand the objection.

When I wrote a story called "Elf Trouble" for an mpreg challenge at a YahooGroup, I didn't realize the majority of the list was squicked by the idea of mpreg. I thought if they were asking for mpreg fanfics, they really wanted them. Regardless of having been around slash fandom for decades, I admit to being pretty naive when it comes to the Mysterious Ways of internet fandom. I've been put in my place a few times in the past year, rest assured. And it's taught me to be a bit more wary but no less enthusiastic about a genre that seems so controversial.

In fact, since slash is so much less controversial now, my rebel spirit is pleased to have a genre to write that so many vilify.

"Elf Trouble," by the way, which featured a pregnant Legolas who ran off to have Aragorn's baby, dropped with a thud at the intended list, but ended up getting lots of excited fans at other places; and I was introduced again to that phenomenon of fandom -- the reader who begs for more. Almost every reviewer begged for a sequel, and considering my long list of WIPs (works-in-progress), I was unable to comply -- at least so far.

Do I think mpreg is cutting edge? No more than slash, really. It's far less kinky than much of the stuff being written, and it can be angsty or not, depending on the circumstances. Fanfic readers seem to love angst, especially the Aragorn/Legolas fans, and I was able to humor them with "Elf Trouble" (which was originally conceived as a humorous story).

I'm no expert on mpreg. I don't read much of it, I admit, so I'm not sure just how the writers out there are getting their guys knocked up or managing to birth those babies. Just today I did a search for communities that feature mpreg, and I noticed the "badfic" groups list it as an interest. Since I don't believe in wasting my time on 'bad fic' when it comes to grammar or technique or even canon, I couldn't belong there.

Harry Potter mpreg seems most prevalent at LJ, and I have a feeling a lot of it is well done, but I'm not currently into that fandom, so I can't speak to it at all. I found a huge community for fans of punk rock bands, which delights me (since I got introduced to the idea via boybands). And I joined up at some of the generic mpreg communities and an LOTR community as an experiment, to see what the LiveJournal mpreg fandom is like. Most of my interaction has come from lists at YahooGroups. 470 LJ users have mpreg listed as an interest. Compare that with 465 who list slash, and it seems like it's not all that unusual after all.

The need to constantly declaim against one another's interests ("Oooh, that squicks me!") is one of the mysterious aspects of fandom. I guess we should expect that a concept stemming from the word "fanatic" (a person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm) to be unreasonable. But why does it have to be snarky?

When it comes to fanfic (and fandom in general), I start to get a little cynical about ever achieving real accord; it seems as unrealistic as the concept of world peace -- or even a calm Thanksgiving holiday with the family. But I'm always reminded of an excerpt from an infamous writer and sexual philosopher from the 18th Century who most people assumed was offensive without ever having read a word of his work. He had something to say that I like to quote when it comes to reading fanfic:

"Many of the extravagances you are about to see illustrated will doubtless displease you, yes, I am well aware of it, but there are amongst them a few which will warm you to the point of costing you some fuck, and that, reader, is all we ask of you . . . Rather, it is up to you to take what you please and leave the rest alone, another reader will do the same, and little by little, everyone will find himself satisfied."

"It is the story of the magnificent banquet: six hundred different plates offer themselves to your appetite; are you going to eat them all? No, surely not, but this prodigious variety enlarges the bounds of your choice . . . choose and let lie the rest without declaiming against that rest simply because it does not have the power to please you. Consider that it will enchant someone else, and be a philosopher."

--The Marquis Donatien de Sade
"The 120 Days of Sodom"

If fanfic is a "Magnificent banquet" with "prodigious variety" and slash is a tantalizing side dish, then mpreg might be considered its just desserts.

And if you don't have a sweet tooth, you might try being a philosopher and just letting it lie. (And if you think someone who uses the Marquis de Sade to justify an interest in mpreg is whack, you're probably right.)

For anyone interested in giving mpreg a try, here are a couple links to my own stuff. It's not poorly written, and I stick with canon (with the exception of the mpreg part, of course). If you only want to invest enough time to read a one-of-one, you might try "Winter Wheat," where Odysseus knocks up Orlando Bloom's Paris (who you have to admit is pretty fem to start with). If you do, read the warnings, because it starts off a little rough. Or if you want to drag the whole thing out a little, I'm almost finished with the eight-part "Fecund Knight," from the 'King Arthur' universe.

If you try it and find it not to your taste, I hope you'll excuse all of us who enjoy it, because that's really all I'm asking. Let us (pro)create in peace.

ETA: Sorry to say a couple of the links above don't work anymore. It seems Kevin's site is down. There may be other places to find these fanfics, and they're worth trying out.
Comments 
1st-Aug-2005 09:37 am (UTC) - So Perfectly Stated!
The problem is, much of fandom is far from as logical -- or reasonable -- as you are, dear MM! (I can just imagine the snarks this minute...)

The thing that I personally find really annoying is this: I'm a man. Believe it or not, I'm pretty much a masculine guy, too. (In spite of my love of pink and babies and kids and kissing my macho husband.) And I'd love it if there was a way I could actually be pregnant and carry the child of my spouse inside my body! Does that make me sick or crazy? I mean, I'm not even SPEAKING to fanfic right now -- I'm talking about my real life!

I love mpregs. I think your "Fecund Knight" series is amazing -- and I'm loving every single word. (Can't wait for the next chapter.)

It's fine that some people are squicked by some elements of fandom and fanfic -- like the scat that Jimbo and I enjoy so much. TO EACH HIS OWN, I like to say... (Love the quoting of DeSade, by the way!) I guess that's why people end up creating non-squick communities and other public forums, by the way.

Personally, I'm really bugged by those in fandom who constantly refer to slash as 'porn' -- which I don't happen to believe it is. Even in jesting I think calling slash 'porn' does slash fandom a major disservice -- one that slash fandom-at-large certainly doesn't need. But if the 'other guy/gal' wants to call slash 'porn,' then fine -- I'll refrain from snarking about it...

Certain fandoms could take a lesson or two in being more supportive of other fanfic authors and readers -- but I bet we're crazy to think it will ever happen. (Like your reference to peace on earth. LOL.)

You're so clever! Let us (pro)create in peace.

Amen.

Love,

Brian
1st-Aug-2005 12:24 pm (UTC) - Re: So Perfectly Stated!
Blending both Marilyn's post and your reply ....

In thinking back to the early Trek slash, I was never aware of it, indeed never wrote a line of any sort of fic or prose until Voyager premiered in 1/95. The ones who bash other writers should keep in mind the basic Trek tenet, IDIC. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. In other words? To each his own. No one is holding them down and forcing them to read mpreg. They need to silently move along and make way for those who want to read it.

Slash as porn ... ick. All in the eye of the beholder here too, I suspect. One person's porn is another person's romance of the week. I have friends (online) who are squicked by RPF. I write it, they don't need to read it. And seriously, it's why it's called FIC. Two very real and beautiful people have fuelled my imagination and I write them in scenarios that we know darned good and well never happened. Or will happen. Dammit. ::laughs::

And most of my fic (of which there has been very little, alas) over the last year has been drabbles. Implied slash, yes, but not a single graphic detail in sight.

Live and let live, I say.

[/soap box speech]
1st-Aug-2005 07:00 pm (UTC)
Is this a conspiracy? You make this post, then I get an email asking (or more like demanding) that I update my "Knocked Up the Bitch" series (because "it's the only mpreg with Eminem")!

I love it when you start talking about the history of slash. It makes me feel like I'm back in college, sitting around with one of my favorite professors (I mean that in a very good way). So glad fandom isn't all brand new and we young'uns can get some perspective from you wise old owls. (Cracking up here because you're the youngest, craziest person I know, and it doesn't seem possible that even a very pervy Mistress could have been writing K/S when she was a little kid!)

Fans of anything are nuts. That's all there is to it. Look around! They destroy property after their favorite teams win. They get in shoving matches on TRL. They argue endlessly about their favorite 'ships. You might even say that politics is just fandom taken to extremes. (How many slashy references did you see made about Clinton/Gore and even Kerry/Edwards.)

I love to wax poetic every once in a while about the things I hate about a particular fandom or fandom in general. And I guess that makes me part of the problem, not part of the solution, even though one of my gripes is always the intolerance of fans.

I never thought I'd write mpreg, but I ended up writing it before you did. What the hell? It's for fun, right?

Do we just take the whole thing too damn seriously? Or not seriously enough?

Keep up the mpregs. Maybe it's just being a gay guy that makes me enjoy seeing Lancelot and Hector struggling with their hormones. Not sure, but it's fun to read. And like I said above, I'm here for fun.

(Hope you have more luck with your argument that the Marquis did . . .)

9th-Oct-2005 06:30 am (UTC)
How's 'Knocked Up the Bitch' coming?

Thanks for your hilarious response. I love the bit about Clinton/Gore and Kerry/Edwards as slash couples. I still dare you to write that.

Fandom is annoying sometimes, and even aggravating, but it's always fascinating, thank God.

Love ya!
2nd-Aug-2005 03:09 am (UTC) - Fascinating
Wow, "images of Kirk as Spock's love slave", that's interesting. The vulcan feeling such passion. I wonder what a vulcan's dick looks like? I guess Kirk find out :-)

The mpregs took me by surprise, but when I read about the desires that some men have to be pregnant and carry their lover's child it all came together for me. And I found it delightful.

Marquis de Sade, that's cool that you used him.
9th-Oct-2005 06:15 am (UTC) - Re: Fascinating
Hi, koi! I'm just trolling back through my LJ and noticed I never replied to this post. I need to scan and put up wonderful images of my K/S paperdolls so you can see! (The classic image of Spock's cock had him with a kind of double glans that flared out.)

(Glad you liked the de Sade quote. It's one of my favorites.)
2nd-Aug-2005 04:59 am (UTC) - Well said!
I love stretching my imagination with mpregs and I'm trying to think of how to write one myself.

I agree! Let us (pro)create in peace.

Endurwen
9th-Oct-2005 06:29 am (UTC) - Re: Well said!
Just trolling my own journal and noticing I never responded to these comments to my mpreg post. Have you ever written an mpreg yet? Just checking, hehe!

Thanks for your comment.
2nd-Aug-2005 06:07 am (UTC) - Thanks, Honey!
I'm amazed to see my fic being rec-ed here, Sugar...

I think you've stated the feelings of mpreg authors better than anything I've ever seen in defense of the fandom. Yep. Not that it should need defending, but I've seen some pretty nasty business when it comes to slamming mpreg fics...

My mpregs (RP) list at Yahoo remains one of my favorite lists.

You know what? I think mpreg fans tend to be some of the nicest folks I've encountered in fandom. (Just as I've found some of the nastiest folks to be anti-mpreg, interestingly enough!) I wonder what that's telling us? Is there something nurturing and kind about those who enjoy mpreg, perhaps?

I have to admit I came into the fandom some while back. I recall being in a chat room and discussing mpreg with a group of both male and female slash writers. I'm struck by the memory of the women being especially squicked by mpreg, while several men were in support -- or at least found it interesting to contemplate...

I've read some excellent writing among mpreg fics, too. (Including your wonderful "Winter Wheat," by the by!) And I proudly host several mpregs at my website...

Bring on the mpreg, I say! The more the merrier. And if there are people in fandom ready to get nasty over it, they won't be the first! As you pointed out, slash fans used to put up with exactly that same bias.

And, damn, Honey! We who enjoy RPS have to field a world of crap from the anti-RP folks. I'm a tad tired of it, but that's the way it goes...

Again, thanks for the kind mention! I'm proud to be noted in your excellent statement.

~~KevinR, webmaster BoyBandFic.Org
9th-Oct-2005 06:16 am (UTC) - Re: Thanks, Honey!
I love you, Kevin! And I loved it when you wrote mpreg. Hope you have (had?) a wonderful birthday. Miss you.
2nd-Aug-2005 09:21 am (UTC)
Hi! I've wandered over from the 'Alexander-the-Great-Mprgs-FemPregs' group in response to your invitation.

I believe that your essay is very well thought out, and I agree. When I first started reading slash I stumbled across mpreg and was pretty shocked. Then after reading a couple fics I started to love the genere. Now for me it is mpreg all the way! Of course I like 'simple' slash stories also.

Like you I have found that the response to mpreg can be pretty violent so I generally keep to groups, ljs or authors who do not mind mpreg. I tend to read mpreg in the Harry Potter universe (not enough Lucius mpreg I'm sorry to say), but do not mind trying other fandoms - such as LOTR, the first slash and mpreg I read.

I also usually instanstly see one of the male leads as in the 'female' role and the more likely to be the pregnant partner if it goes that way. Why, I don't know. Maybe the need for the more familiar male-female role.

I didn't know that lj mpreg interest beat the slash interest! There is hope!

Jadwiga
9th-Oct-2005 06:18 am (UTC)
Just trolling my LJ and found out I never replied to these comments to my mpreg post.

I didn't know that lj mpreg interest beat the slash interest! There is hope!

Absolutely! (And I love your icon.)
2nd-Aug-2005 12:47 pm (UTC) - Mpreg Essay
Anonymous
Very well written and insightful. You asked on one of the yahoo groups (I cna't remember which one) for feedback on why some of us read/write mpreg. I guess, for me, I like to see a physical confirmation of the love and lust that two people share, whether they be men or women. I guess, some fics highlight the sex (the physical) so much, that they forget the underlying reason- love (the emotional). Okay, maybe that's a bit sappy, but I'm just a true romantic at heart, but I guess I like to see some kind of "higer purpose" through sex- that is, creating a life through shared love.

Ceyxa
3rd-Aug-2005 09:25 pm (UTC)
Yes, I have to totally agree with your entire essay. I feel that if you don't like mpreg, don't bash the genre, just avoid those types of stories. People always put warnings up when they have mpreg in their stories. I've received some heat for my Lost mpreg, Do You Believe in Magic? . But, it usually just causes me to roll my eyes and think "don't people have better things to do with their time, like read stories they like?"

Once again, beautifully written essay!
9th-Oct-2005 06:19 am (UTC)
Just trolling my LJ and finally responding to comments on my mpreg post. Thanks so much for coming over and reading. Can't wait to read your 'Lost' story (are you at the mpreg community?). I don't really know the fandom, but that's never stopped me.

Thanks again!
6th-Aug-2005 05:30 am (UTC)
When a really talented writer like you brings us a wonderful story like 'Fecund Knight,' we'd be hard-pressed not to at least admit it's well told. I learned to appreciate mpreg by reading your stuff, and I wish you'd find a way to do it with our mutual ship! Ha! That would take some doing, wouldn't it?

As a daddy living with another daddy, the whole mpreg thing has taken on a real meaning for me.

Most important, if people don't like it, they need to be tolerant of those who do. But that's asking for something that, unfortunately, is probably pretty unrealistic (more unrealistic than the genre itself)!

Keep it up!
9th-Oct-2005 06:20 am (UTC)
Thanks, Jimbo, for your comment. I intend to 'keep it up' when it comes to mpreg! (I even started something over at the ka100 community!
6th-Aug-2005 07:04 am (UTC)
Here via metafandom.

I wrote an essay on MPREG a while back and invite you to check it out if you care to: The Question of MPREG.
7th-Aug-2005 03:57 am (UTC) - here via metafandom
I'm not an mpreg fan. Once in a while I'll read one out of curiosity if it comes highly recommended, but I'll admit that as a whole the genre leaves me indifferent at best, squicked and/or annoyed at worst.

Part of why I dislike so much mpreg is that the mechanics of getting a man pregnant and having him give birth are so poorly conceived (sorry for the pun) and described. I think I've seen it done convincingly only a couple of times.

But what bothers me far more than bad biology are some of the ideas that accompany geting a male character pregnant. I've seen stories where a slash couple marries, but their union isn't really complete until they have had a child. And not just any child, but their own biological offspring, borne by one of the male partners. I've rarely seen surrogacy or adoption presented as an option. Yeah, I admit it--the sexual and reproductive politics of this really bother me.

I wrote a long rant on mpregs back in January after reading some godawful eye-bleeder or other. Re-reading it, I see a lot of things in it that I would change now; it's horribly screechy in tone, and I make a lot of unsupported generalizations. A severe sporking is in order; I admit it. But the central issues that turned me off of mpreg then still turn me off now.

Since I wrote it, however, I've started thinking about what mpregs actually mean to their fans rather than my own personal reactions to them. It's easy to shriek, "Eeew! You people are perverts!" but in the long run it's much more interesting and productive to ask, "What makes these stories so powerful for the people who read and write them?"

I'm no fan of bdsm, noncon or death fics, but I do like H/Cs, which too often fall into a similar trap of feminizing one male partner that I ranted about in regard to mpregs. While I wouldn't have admitted it six months ago, I do see some thematic parallels between mpreg and H/C. My own fandom kink isn't so different from yours. And even though I thought I'd managed to leave academia, I've been giving a lot of thought to these issues in fandom as of late.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that for now. Thanks for such a reasonable and interesting essay.
9th-Oct-2005 06:23 am (UTC) - Re: here via metafandom
Trolling through my own journal and noticed I never responded to the comments to my mpreg post. Thanks so much for coming over and making your thoughtful response, especially since you're not an mpreg fan. I'd love to have you read one of my own mpregs sometime and see what you think considering the nature of your objections (I usually choose fandoms where some other-worldly force manages to skirt biology, pun intended).

Anyway, I appreciate the comment. Belated thanks!
9th-Aug-2005 01:29 am (UTC)
My dear Marilyn! I had no idea you had a LJ! And such a wonderful entry, also! *Grins as loves the Marquis' quote* I followed your link in the Arthur mpreg group, and I think I shall friend your LJ so I might catch more of this sort of yummy post!

As for the fandom, I started in LOTR just over a year ago. A very good friend of mine talked me into reading the books, and then allowed me to read her fanfic. She got me hooked. I then began to search for everything I could think of. And then I happened upon a very strange phenomenon. Mpreg. For years, I had played with such ideas. I remember role-play games with a neighbour when I was little in which we would find some way of making the males become pregnant. I had thought it was an odd perversion of mine, and so when I found that there were many out there like me, I guess I was slightly relieved. Online, I could read and/or write all the stories I needed to curb my strange fascination with the subject. And now, over a year later, I must say that I have yet to have had my fill.

I've branched out to several different fandoms in order to find the fics of this genre. I've cringed at the awful fangurrrrrrrrrl stories and mary sues. And I've fallen in love with those stories that are so well written that I find myself swept away and lost within the enchanting spiral of their words. (speaking of...Boromir's Elves, Mistress Marilyn?) I find myself going back and re-reading those fics out of pure love for them.

Oh, I've also written some of my own. I haven't in a long while, for I got discouraged with the amount of 'flames' that I recived for my various fics, but I hope to someday return to them. I have run across the canonists who screamed that I was 'twisting the story into something unrecognizable' I've also run across fandom groupies who complained that I allowed the wrong character to be dominant. In the end, however, These people were outnumbered by the sheer amount of devoted fans who loved the stories, or simply the concept.

We fans need to stick together!

~Taelin
15th-Aug-2005 06:31 pm (UTC) - In defense of MPregs
I am not a writer of fan fiction but an avid reader. I started with KA fanfiction and it took me a while to get used to slash fiction. Not that I am prude or think less of gay couples; I just never thought about any of the characters in KA as being gay. I would not go so far as to say that slash is my favourite genre but it is alright and every now and then pretty amazing and outstanding. It depends on the feelings of the persons involved in versus to pure lusty acts I suppose.

I never read MPreg fanfiction until the fateful day Mistress Marilyn posted 'Fecund Knight' to one of the KA fanfictions groups I am a member of and it blew me off my chair. I loved it, it made so much sense and it did not matter at all that a male pregnancy/birth is purely fictional. I have to say that I am not interested in any other MPreg or slash than in the KA universe because this film had such an impact on me. I loved all the emotional turmoil the pregnant character went through and how he coped with being a male mother. The reactions of the father were equally amazing. I don't care what other people say or think I am a fan of MPregs if they are of such a high quality as Marilyn's writing.

What I despise and will never read is torture/violence just for fun and RPF. It is one thing to fantasise about a movie character but another to write about a real human being who has nothing in common with the person described in RPF.

Big hugs and lots of love,

Doro
9th-Oct-2005 06:26 am (UTC) - Re: In defense of MPregs
Hi, Doro! Just trolling my own journal and noticing I never responded to the wonderful comments I got to my mpreg post. Thanks so much for reading and commenting (and all the nice things you said about my beloved 'Fecund Knight').

I love watching people get 'converted' in fandom, whether it's to slash or mpreg or some other aspect of fanfic.

I didn't realize you had an LJ. Mind if I friend you?

Marilyn
15th-Aug-2005 06:32 pm (UTC) - In defense of MPregs
Anonymous
I am not a writer of fan fiction but an avid reader. I started with KA fanfiction and it took me a while to get used to slash fiction. Not that I am prude or think less of gay couples; I just never thought about any of the characters in KA as being gay. I would not go so far as to say that slash is my favourite genre but it is alright and every now and then pretty amazing and outstanding. It depends on the feelings of the persons involved in versus to pure lusty acts I suppose.

I never read MPreg fanfiction until the fateful day Mistress Marilyn posted 'Fecund Knight' to one of the KA fanfictions groups I am a member of and it blew me off my chair. I loved it, it made so much sense and it did not matter at all that a male pregnancy/birth is purely fictional. I have to say that I am not interested in any other MPreg or slash than in the KA universe because this film had such an impact on me. I loved all the emotional turmoil the pregnant character went through and how he coped with being a male mother. The reactions of the father were equally amazing. I don't care what other people say or think I am a fan of MPregs if they are of such a high quality as Marilyn's writing.

What I despise and will never read is torture/violence just for fun and RPF. It is one thing to fantasise about a movie character but another to write about a real human being who has nothing in common with the person described in RPF.

Big hugs and lots of love,

Doro
17th-Aug-2005 09:03 am (UTC) - Agreement affirmed
I have been reading slash and its subgroup mpreg as long as I have managed to get on-line... from 1996 I think. And it never squicked me. And most likely it never will, as a concept. I do agree that some stories even in mpreg are not well written/researched/in character and that is sad because what this genre needs is good authors and good stories (And I apologize to all who wait for the next chapter of my Troy mpreg. It will come, I promise!). This is the only way to gain some ground.
I do agree thus with everything our gracious Mistress said.
Have fair day and fare well!
Kerttu
9th-Oct-2005 06:28 am (UTC) - Re: Agreement affirmed
Hello, my dear! I'm finally getting around to answering the comments to my mpreg post. It was so nice of you to come over and comment. Do you use your LJ much? I think I friended you a while back, but I don't remember seeing many posts.

I'm still working on finishing 'Paris' Confinement.' (Right at the moment I have 'Troy' on in the background, trying, maybe to inspire me?)

It was great seeing your name here!
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